Sunday, August 22, 2010

Harper the Tyrant (ii)

Elisabeth May claims that the Conservatives are dangerous to democracy. Unfortunately I wasn’t there for her speech and the only MSM report I could find about the speech is this Sun article. From this article it appears that she thinks that Canada’s democracy is under threat because elected officials are directing policy against the advice of unelected officials.

Somehow I don’t think Ms. May understands what democracy means.

She could argue that the independence of some officials has come under threat. But that is hardly a democratic value. This is just another absurd hyperbole of an attack against the government that serves to do nothing but undermine the credibility of the attacker. It is reminiscent of comments by a Liberal MP earlier in the summer calling Stephen Harper a tyrant.

At the same time there are plenty of valid complaints that can be made against the Conservatives. This piece by Andrew Coyne accusing them of being anti-intellectual is a good example. So why do so many opponents of the government feel compelled to make such silly remarks?

Mr. Harper is not a tyrant and he is not a threat to democracy. He may be a bad Prime Minister though, so let’s talk about that instead.

10 comments:

bertie said...

And WHO would you consider a good Prime Minister.?????If you don,t consider PM Harper a good PM after the likes of Dion,Chretien,Trudeau,Martin,Clark you might as well go back to school,because you do not know what good and bad are.

wilson said...

Andrew Coyne called Conservatives the Stupid People's Party...
apparently Coyne thinks Canadians should shut up and do as our bureaucrat experts say.

How's that 'let the expert bureaucrats decide' working out in Veteran's Affairs?

wilson said...

''...the only MSM report I could find about the speech is this Sun article...''

That's right, SunTV, the much feared 'hard right demon' media will actually cover the Greens, and the Dippers too.

And how about the Tamil refugees going 'home for the holidays', and the UN shipping Tamil refugees back home, since June.

The media outlet that brought you that truth, also, was the Sun media group.
Something the Libluvin media have ignored for YEARS.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Politics/

Calgary Junkie said...

Further to what bertie says, in trying to evaluate a leader, one must always remember that 'the perfect is the enemy of the good'.
And you have to consider the political environment--Harper has no natural allies in the other three parties, and a mostly hostile media.

It basically comes down to: how much slack do you cut the guy ? The usual suspects obviously cut him NO slack, as they nitpick the most ridiculous things. And of course, they all have 20/20 hindsight, and offer up all kinds of 'obvious' advice on how Harper can get his majority.

But politics, IMHO, is more of an art than a science. The current iteration of the Libs, and much of the media, seems to think otherwise, as they go balistic when the 'experts' are taken down a few notches. Funny thing, the Libs keep telling us how important reliable statistics are to policy making. So where are their policies ? LOL They even had a thinker's conference, to kick start the policy process. Yet nothing. They remain spooked by the greeenshift debacle.

Hugh MacIntyre said...

bertie,

Better by comparison is still not good. For example being punched in the nose is better than being kicked in the groin. But that doesn't make being punched in the nose a good thing.

Wilson,

He isn't saying that we should do whatever bureaucrats say. But we should still listen to experts. Experts have spent their entire life studying an issue. They are not always right but to completely ignore them is absurd.

Calgary Junkie,

I agree that you shouldn't make 'the perfect the enemy of the good.' but to qualify you actually have to be good. I would support many politicians who are hardly libertarian. For example I supported Christine Elliott in the leadership race, and you can't with a straight face say she is perfect. But Harper is moving the country in the wrong direction and I cannot support that.

Anonymous said...

William in Ajax said...

Your link goes to the Ottawa Sun.
Other links go to the other SUN chain papers, they all carry the same story by the same author.
At the Toronro Sun she has updated her post about poligamy and all comments on her previous post are gone.

Anonymous said...

We know how socialists operate. Seize the voice of the nation, its media, seize the schools, the government and institutions and then brainwash the masses into how they should believe. Then ask them what is true or false? In case somebody still gets it right then imprison them and torture them until they 'get it the socialist way.' Sorry but the Greens are socialists because rather than using evidence to convince people of their views they much prefer indoctrination. Thus, the Green party is a threat to democracy. But they should be allowed to exist and prosper because they help to divide the left. See I am a benevolent dictator. (real conservative)

bertie said...

The question is still..WHO would you consider a better PM than PM Harper.When every nation in the world
is literally falling over themselves with praise for PM Harper,YOU are saying he is not a good PM..Quit hiding behind punch in the nose crap answers..WHO would be a better PM.If you don,t have an answer,you should not have made the statement.Don,t start being the Toronto Star and CBC.

Calgary Junkie said...

Hugh, I take it you are a libertarian. And you aren't getting enough of your agenda addressed by Harper.

That's fine. I can understand that. You probably want a dismantling of the Human Rights Commission, among other things.

There are fiscal conservatives who want more of their agenda dealt with too. For example, lower spending, reducing the size of the civil service, that kind of thing.

And I'm sure social conservatives want more. And democratic reformers want more, etc. etc.

So what do we do ? Do we sit on our hands, not vote, not donate ? That's an option, sure. Go ahead, play hardball with Harper. Don't cut him any more slack. Forget all the good work he has done since coming out of retirement in 2002, unitying the parties, and all the rest of it.

My suggestion, if you want more of your agenda dealt with, then nominate and help elect true blue small "c" conservatives in your riding. Help to put together the kind of team around Harper, that will advocate more of your agenda.

Hugh MacIntyre said...

bertie,

Maxime Bernier

Calgary Junkie,

There are more ways to participate in politics than just being part of a political party. I try as much as possible to get involved in small-c conservative activities that I agree with and libertarian organizations that I support. My attitude is that if we win the war of ideas with the voters politicians are more likely to do what I want.

Also I do not rule out working with any political party that I agree with on particular issues. Or support a politician that is moving in the right direction. Harper rarely qualifies on either count.